Pictures of our dogs can be seen here.
Our Miniature Golden Retrievers are 60% or more Golden Retriever.
Our Petite Goldens are 25-75% Golden Retriever and are usually a mix of all 3 breeds.
Our Golden Toys are 25-50% Golden Retriever .
Cogols, or Cocker Retrievers, have no Poodle behind them.
An F1B-type breeding would have more Cocker Spaniel than the Golden Retriever.
Rotational breeding requires us to breed back to parent breeds or breed through percentages to achieve a “typey” dog.
I list below some of these rotations, or generations:
F1.....Simply a first generation of Petite Golden Retriever. This is the point where you have all three breeds in the dog somewhere.
F1B.......Petite Golden Retriever is bred back to a parent breed or to a blend that gives us more of one breed than the Golden Retriever.
F2........an F1 to F1 breeding. These litters have the most variations in color, coat types and sizes....especially if you've got variable sizes behind the parents.
F3.........an F2 to F2 breeding. Also called “multi-gens”, these litters start looking a lot alike, although you may still have variations in size.
All Petite GoldenDoodles have Cocker Spaniel behind them.....even if it's only 12%.
Miniature and Toy GoldenDoodles would have no Cocker Spaniel
An F1B-type breeding would have 51% or more Poodle.
We use rotational breeding on our Petite GoldenDoodles.
Whereas a GoldenDoodle breeder may add more and more Poodle to achieve a non-shed coat, we are constantly adding more Golden Retriever to the Doodle. We would rely on multiple generations to achieve our non-shed coat(which takes more time).
We usually don't breed doodle litters for the doodles—but for the straight-haired puppies the pairing creates.
F1......a first generation of Petite GoldenDoodle. The standard percentage of an F1 is 25% Golden, 25% Cocker, 50% Poodle.
F1B.......A Petite GoldenDoodle is bred back to a Poodle or to a blend that gives us more Poodle than the Golden Retriever and Cocker Spaniel combined.
F2.......an F1 to F1 breeding. I don't know about other breeders but I like to use a low-shed Golden with my Petite GoldenDoodle. So, puppies would be; 50% Golden, 12% Cocker, 38% Poodle
F3.......an F2 to F2 breeding. We don't breed these very often. I do have an F2 GoldenDoodle stud available, so requests could be considered.
Sizes and Averages
We use a 6-dog average when calculating the sizes of our puppies. To do this, we take our male and female size. Then we add the size of parents on both sides and divide by 6. This will give us the approximate average for our litter.
Our male is 22 lbs. Our female is 52 lbs. Popular average technique shows that their pups would be 37 lbs(22+52/2). Our 6-dog
average gives us a more realistic view-
30+15+22+52+75+64=258/6=43 lbs average
Because our male is so small, we have a 'spread', which is the difference between the two parents....30 lbs.....so you're likely going to see a range of sizes with the two dogs.
Our Miniature Golden Retrievers are 35-55 lbs
Our Standard Petite Goldens are 30-50 lbs
Our Medium Petite Goldens are 20-40 lbs
Our Golden Toys are 15-25 lbs
Our Miniature GoldenDoodles are usually 15-45 lbs. Standards would be 46+
Toy GoldenDoodles can be 8-20 lbs
A word about repeat litters.......
We rarely breed the same two dogs many times over. When you see a litter you like, don't forget to ask if we'll breed the two dogs again.
Breeding pairs are the exception. These are created to have more than one litter and we pull a puppy from each one for observation and possible placement in the breeding program.